The FBI investigation labeled Cho a "collector of injustices." And I think you would have to know them really really good. Well now we tell you we did see the bodies, we also have posed several very logical questions to you which you can't answer obviously. I'd like to leave you with one thought ... but I'm not sure you have a place to put it! I have read everyones posts, and have found it all quite an interesting debate. Columbine is a place where we had another school shooting here in the u.s., this time it was a high school. This video documents various aspects of the shooting on the Virginia Tech campus. Brigadier General George Serong claimed the massacre demonstrated a clinical display of shooting capabilities, that were much greater than his, and he posited that no more than 30 men in the world could have pulled off such an attack. Universities have historically been a place for reason and understanding and no arms have been ever allowed in the campuses. Are we really that thick and simple, that we would protect a small minorities twisted enjoyment of a destructive hobby even unto the expense of innocent lives? that means he was made fun of . I should have clarified VT as "worst mass shooting". i think access of information from school to school regarding the mental health issues of a student should not be private, if someone needs to be taken care of then the schools have a responsibility to pass that information along. you want to be insulting and attack me personally? Its much more tame and bland, never as easily proven or dis-proven as a public shooting taking place on a college campus while classes are being attended. You are actually bringing up some interesting truths, and mixing it with 100% pure wack job? I held onto them until I moved my residence then tossed them. Virginia Tech Shooting, One Year On Award winning poet Fred D'Aguiar is head of creative writing at Virginia Tech. 32'/sec² And I also think that if you know someone in those places, you are probably not a studentt in any way. so now we are talking about 911, why? So what is proof anyhow if reality is determined by whoever has the biggest stick? Wow, how sympathico! I think you are not as clever as you may think. Where did he get the remaining 150 rounds or so needed to kill 32 students and injure 25 more. thank you for your very constructive critic, you lobbyist for the NRA. And don't let 'jerk52' or any other nincompoop who However, we love who we love. He went from jail to A mental hospital . Now about false flag operations. Keep talking, someday you'll say something intelligent. But obviously we need to keep people like this from guns. Consider the following: The USA PATRIOT Act, at 342 pages, consisting of 156 separate sections, under 10 discrete titles, covering 350 subject areas involving 40 different federal agencies, was written within the 3 week period prior to its introduction to Congress, on Oct 2, 2001, at the average calculated rate of 16 pages per day. The sooner the better. **One victim died at the scene, while another 19 were injured, eight of whom were listed in critical condition with six requiring surgery. Sure it's easy to say "another stupid conspiracy theory" to every question that can't get an easy answer. I live in Mesa AZ which is about 2 hrs north of the Tucson shooting and the gun mentality in this state is surreal. Was drunken misfits Doug & Dave responsible for crop circles that takes mathematicians many days to figure out on paper? I consider this documentary a strong case for owning and carrying a fire arm. Also to say what is wrong with America is wrong, There are fine law abiding citizens there too. living in America, its evident and we also like to think its 1900 on one half of the country and 2050 on the other side. All he had to do was read to see you were mixing these topics, not us. with and opening of "I did not see this documentary but am opposed to gun laws" i did not read his till after your post. I thank our Governor for refusing to sign a bill that would allow firearms to be carried on college campuses; a bill passed by our neo-conservative legislature and opposed by the majority of AZ residents. For about a week or so Americans seemed genuinely concerned about the level of violence the country is capable of generating at any given moment. Well Trumpshead, you are either a government troll, or, need to work on your persuasive rhetoric a bit. Perhaps English is not your first language, or you can blame your American school system. Compared to USA, you cant buy these guns here In Denmark. Ok, maybe some informations were not sufficient evaluated, but he disguise his latter violant nature very good. No, you don't get it. I was diagnosed with clinical depression, but later with narcolepsy. I suppose it's different for everyone but my experience in a chinese family is they don't believe in the work of psychotherapists. overall, i still have lapses in social anxiety but i'm getting by. Any one can see that the current gun laws do much more than just provide people with basic access to basic protective weapons. Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, This is why the conspiracy crowd catches so much flack. I'm sure some dumb-ass American will break it soon. F(due to gravity) = G[mM?r²] ? There is no denying that America has the most school shooting partly because its HUGE and has more schools there than a lot of smaller countries in Europe. The human mind is complex. Cho killed himself after law enforcement officers breached the doors of the building where he had killed and injured the majority of his victims. But believing VT was a false flag operation makes no sense what so ever. Was 9/11 a false flag operation or not? I guess, sometimes I catch these individuals mixing a bunch of "conspiracies" together in an attempt to discredit them all. Sad it came to this... but with ALL the warning signs, they failed to recognize it. "it was not televised" i found video One body was carried out on a stretcher. Die Tat gehört neben dem Schulmassaker von Bath (1927), dem Amoklauf an der Columbine High School (1999), dem Amoklauf an der Sandy Hook Elementary School (2012) und dem Schulmassaker von Parkland (2018) zu den folgenschwersten Gewaltverbrechen an einer Bildungseinrichtung in den Vereinigten Staaten. Getting laid. _______________________________________________________. The wars. I bet if someone made a documentary on "How To Think and Reason" no Americans will watch it. Seems that mental health records from the University were "discovered" 28 months after the massacre even though they were demanded right after April 16, 2007. You did not offer one answer but a tirade against me. I care about my country, and I'm ashamed of what's going on and what govt is getting away with. Enhanced Interrogation techniques conducted on average joe American Citizen to see if they might commit a crime in the future. Der Präsident der Hochschule, Charles W. Steger, sagte über die Ereignisse: The university was struck … More check points. Did you see all the news stations? You cannot separate the just from the unjust and the good from the wicked; for they stand together before the face of the sun even as the black thread and the white are woven together....." ect. Then, on Oct 26, 2001, 45 days subsequent to the controlled demolitions, the USA PATRIOT Act was signed into law by President George W. Bush. C'mon, when were you born, last year? See, all you can do is revert to 911 over and over, nothing to say about VT which is the topic of this conversation. It don't take a rocket scientist to finger that out . On Jan. 18, 1984, Seung-hui was born." You would make an excellent juror. You do not know what reality is anymore. My girlfriend walks around with a fun in her purse. There are several ways to be notified about new content on TDF. At VT, Jeff Soriano was a student who escaped by jumping from a window. Hard to explain to someone who hasn't been there.. ). Only patriots know the truth because they care enough to investigate. Now this certainly doesn't make me a genius or anything special, but I feel pretty safe saying I can read and have a far better chance of changing things than someone spouting insults and accusations but little else. I tried one last time to reply to Waldo sans the angst. And just maybe, as a symbolic gesture, I will build one. And now gonna watch this docu:P. This guy was suffering from a mental instability which was quite likely a physical problem. Was 9/11 Demolition? Well Sam your a modest little person, with much to be modest about. Did you see the bodies? THE BUSH-CHENEY CONSPIRACY THEORY After the face of the bldg collapsed from the explosion, it was discovered there were charges still attached to beams that failed to blow; read it in the papers myself, then later in many "conspiracy theory" articles. Or was it? Imagine for a moment, everybody is allowed to bear a gun, in school , on work, in discos, everywhere. You did not read my comments, too bad. I dunno. However, James....evolution. I just want to say, I was not always pro firearms for self defense, but that is an undeveloped younger self who was a little green around the ears. A good Smith & Wesson Revolver would be a handy tool to have at ones disposal at Virginia Tech that day, the only sure victim-prevention tool for the victim-to-be. Btw, I also read but did not verify (don't know how) that Cho himself was shot twice in the chest and once in the head. I see nothing wrong with mixing cultures in fact I think it is a good thing that brings about understanding, and new ideas. Another 10 were wounded by bullets exiting bodies. T(for WTC bldg's1&2) ? as i got older, my social anxiety became worse and worse to the point i couldn't even hold a fairly stable conversation at school without holding my silence in embarrassment and fear or freezing in terror when someone who ask me something as simple as where the science lab rooms were. A report released by the Department of Education says Virginia Tech violated federal law during the 2007 shooting on campus. I bet you that the whole of Scandinavia plus Finland, well even if we include all of Europe (that is almost 500 million people) we are not even close to the number of USA school-shootings. Just reading the words brings a chill up the... September 16th, 1920. Unless that is the primary aim of your posts and not the content. And you're telling me mournful? The Questions: Is it religion. Give me a break junior, your out of your league on this site, all opinions and assertions with no real facts or even common sense. I am also inclined to say there is a lot to do with how easy it is for people to simply give up on their families, a major source of understanding and comfort. They kill people. I think that has a lot to do with it. The govt trick is to make living so difficult you need to work two jobs to pay your bills and you don't pay attention as govt pulls the wool over your sleepy eyes. Finding massive quantities of militarized explosives called Nano-Thermite in various stages of detonation in the dust of those towers does not support the official fairy-tale. Now, can you give us one shred of evidence that what you say is truth? During Cho’s last two years at Virginia Tech, several instances of his aberrant behavior, as well as plays and other writings he submitted contained references to violence, and caused concern among teachers and classmates. Get a life. And when one of you falls down he falls for those behind him, a caution against the stumbling stone. Look pal, you can believe whatever you want, one more moron wont break the camels back surely. The shooting that took place in Arizona recently would not have claimed near the number of innocent lives that it did if the guy had of been forced to use a standard clip. But we spend our lives being called weird. What shred of proof do you have that VT was a false flag operation, I mean besides the rather flimsy reason that they didn't show the dead mangled bodies on prime time television? People try and say its our violent past, but countries like Germany have had more violence in their past than we have yet they do not have this issue. But French Canadians said enough is enough...and it was enough! We must remember Cho Seung Hui was literally insane in this case. I'm sorry that my belief in the right to have a fire arm for self defense is so "insane" to you. Besides there were some people who tried to help him, but he learnd to veil his intentions. Again, the video's on youtube are all from the five minute loop from Fox. Anyway, why must there be "proof" if there is no "independent" and satisfactory investigation? I also hold a job in the theology department of the college I attend and am completing my second degree currently, majoring in physics. Check my latest and longest comment. Newtonian Mechanics dictates that the free-fall collapses of World Trade Center buildings 1,2,&7, were each the result of controlled demolition. . Everyone knows that conspiracy takes place, always has always will- but it is never these elaborate meat headed schemes people like you dream up. Sometimes these attitudes are cross cultural. What's the solution? The wildest conspiracy theory of all time! An interesting new book that covers all of Virginia Tech's disasters -- including beheadings, suicides, and other murders -- is coming out next month called "The Many Deaths of Virginia Tech" by Chuck Marsh. Maybe I should just shut up because every time I speak about what is going on in America I feel I am in the land of the walking dead. According to the story, Martin, in the first 90 seconds of his attack had killed 20 people, with 29 bullets; 21 were shot in the head, one survived. i hated them all, and there definitely were times it got very intense and i let them get to me because i wouldn't even stand up for myself and just take it. Read it for yourself. I believe and apparently millions of people think similarly about this VT case but are wiser to keep their mouths shut. And i was thinking "wow,a very long history in school-shootings - what the hell is going on over there?". Here, the attitudes and actions of our goverment are slowly and insidiously infecting "we the people". Maybe 32 students died, maybe not. It's more that i'm not engineered to speak when i feel certain ways. But it did not happen the way govt said it happened; it is proven beyond a reasonable doubt that 9/11's three bldg crash were Demolitioned. He lost a student in the tragedy and had taught the shooter. Of course it happened. If one is fixated on one race, look, what have you.. it can be obsessive but also a humans effing standard. R.I.P. You might be able to find an old shotgun at your grandfathers farm. Where's my comments to AZ and C and N ??? Prove to the rest of us that you are not crazy. Your twisted view of the world is a bit nauseating trumpsahead. I agree, he probably did understand more than most what is happening to America and the world, but also they skipped over the fact that he was on antipsychotic drugs, which is sure to rewire your brain temporary or permantly. I wanted to reply to your post to me. By Amy Minsky Global News Posted October 2, 2017 2:04 pm . One could make a decent living selling secondhand books in the 1970s, before South Korea’s economy began to boom. Real investigative thinking often requires a leap of faith. Cho still holds the record. Did 9/11 happen? I thought this documentary was done so clinically and devoid of all feeling, almost no emotion to speak of. Let me guess, you just learned to read but comprehension is still a puzzlement. Govt is too big for their own or any citizen's good. This is a very strange anomaly that must be addressed although I have never heard anyone mention it but me - how come? I would be the last one to know. To brake out . To blame his parents is no different than blaming his parents if he had developed a heart condition. A rifle that, among other things, can be made fully automatic with a twist tie off a loaf of bread. do not blames guns, .. blame the lack of care we actually have for our fellow human beings around us as a society. You set up a false choice, either we have the current gun laws or they take all guns. It was most likely a creation to divert attention from invading Iraq or something can't remember what was going on at that time. My father doesn't believe therapy either and he's Dutch. Wake up America! The 9/11 official report is unquestionably a "conspiracy theory" and a poor one given that most of the claims and timetable regarding the towers, PA crash, and Pentagon have more unanswered questions than sensible, logical and verifiable answers. Yea, the guilty is oftentimes the victim of the injured. A very loud burglar alarm deters most would be home invaders. don't worry this will be my last post to you because i read your posts on this subject and none of them contain a shred of proof only speculation and misdirection, Once i stumbled upon a website, where all the american school-shootings were listed. Unless you have absolute proof, I think it would be prudent to keep your ideas to yourself. by continuing what little psychiatric help he was getting from school to school he could have maintained a level of observation to have kept him from the event at Virginia tech. I sincerely hope that any one who has lost a loved one in this tragedy never has to read your hateful rants. I wish I knew. I don't trust the Government or the "Peace" officers for that matter, to look after my well being. Playing next. I hope he is just some crazy. I recall that the day of the mass killing in the Virginia Tech, I felt extremely disturbed and sad. my dad on the other hand is afraid a stranger will try to trick and launder off with their money in a scam. this would of never happen . then i see this rammbling post after post he is putting up. That was my initial response to you, but I can see your opinions are earnest at this point. Based on Cho’s videos and the comments of those who knew him, Cho was deeply disturbed. I do know where to start though. The incident became the biggest mass shooting in peacetime US history. A Virginia judge on Tuesday approved an $11 million settlement from the state to the families of victims killed or injured in last year's Virginia Tech shootings. Yet you hold yourself up as some debate god that knows everything we don't. I cannot read through all of it without shedding a tear. BTW, in your reply, the correct spelling is right "TO" self defence, not "TOO". NEWSFLASH - As smugglers rely on stealth, the last thing they want is a gun fight with innocent people and even more so with authorities. good idea we should disarm the police also...after all if no guns made or allowed, nobody needs to get shot.... crims will buy guns illegally and make them also, they are easy to make....a crazy kid unable to buy a gun or steal a gun will just make a gun...which in itself is worse because their lies the potential for kids all secretly making guns in their spare time because its cool and bad ass....without ever learning and gun discipline....so the last thing you want is to flood teenage society with "how to build your own gun" manuals and them running around secretly showing of their cool home made toys. A few bad apples... yes but show me a country that doesn't have these. New York City. And terrible and shouldn't have happened. Read my other reply to your traitor friend. Did Sirhan Sirhan put the fatal bullet to Robert Kennedy? This is common for true introverts. I think bans on assault riffles and machine guns can help, and am all for them. Right! there ain't any justification for any sort of brutal sick acts. Report. What would be gained by such a thing, how would you explain the families that lost their loved ones, the fact that anyone can check death records and confirm that these people were killed and how, that anyone can check birth records and other official documents that prove these people did live here and go to school here and so forth, the eye witnesses that saw what happened and have no connection to the government as many of them are still attending VT or going on with other normal lives that can also be easily checked into, the school admitting that this had taken place on their campus which had to be the absolute worst thing a school could have to admit, the interviews with local police and so forth that have worked in that area and know everyone long before this took place saying they saw what happened, etc.etc. I guess a lot of people in Ireland know someone who knew somebody who had something to do with the IRA conflict? From what I read, you're quite wellspoken anyway and you actually have no need for ranting and raving to present a clear argument. See all episodes from The Wednesday Documentary, This programme was restored as part of the World Service archive project, About the BBC World Service Archive Project, Contact us to bring something to our attention. Sure, I will answer a few of your questions: (1.N (2.I don't know enough about this topic to comment (3.N (4. . It was an attempt at levity at the expense of your poor spelling, vocabulary, or both. I read some comments who disliked what you have to say, and I don't think it was what you said but how you said it. In Russia, Sept. 1 is the Day of Knowledge, a joyous annual... On Chicago's West Side, there is a school for the city's... Black Holes. You have no proof that VT was a false flag operation but you still believe that it is. Millions upon millions of people are aware of it. And do you actually believe MILLIONS of people think this shooting was some giant conspiracy? You say wake up, I so o.k. Love her much. You govt shills are clever enough, talking like you're for 2nd amdmt but you throw in an entire paragraph so morons who don't know what's going on remember wrongly and follow the leader. More lies by govt just like the lies of 9/11. I am pretty sure the US won't get rid of pistols. And most people think we live in a free country, ha. Jokes aside....the city I come from ni brazil has 50 murders a weekend..... yes, one city with about a 1,5 million people. I agree with James as far as the sense of entitlement NOW in this day and age. he guessed, and asked me if i had social anxiety after much probing of questions of why i failed those speech classes. Not everyone recharges by being around others. Wonder if anyone will break it. See how this works? "Sung-tae Cho, the killer’s father, came from a poor rural area. Let's try to make sense here! "Timothy McVey blew up the Oklahoma bldg?" Of course, the plot would have been designed ahead of time. Your naivete really shines: What does the school have to gain you ask. I like to think, and I could be wrong, that if our founding fathers were still around then there would be a long line of politicians, bankers and corporate leaders waiting on the gallows. It's clear that wald0 made many valid points and you base your entire argument on your own paranoia. Thought I noticed one of four school boys get a bit choked up when speaking to a reporter near the dorms. Get the tinfoil off your head. Very astute of you, Im only saying, that even if we put all of Europe together we still havn't got as many shootings as the USA. This documentary details the story behind Cho Seung Hui, a South Korean student at Virginia Tech University, who committed a mass murder of 32 people and wounded 25 others in the shooting rampage which has come to be known as the Virginia Tech massacre. Rock the world? This mistake allowed for proof that McVey was a patsy and yet he was found guilty and was killed for it. you come across like a crazy person, way over the top angry at the world type guy. Wow, that's scary...I feel really bad for his family. And still more often the condemned is the burden bearer for the guiltless and unblamed. P.S. I think what it is, is your debating style is so hostile! Seeing all of this happening can bring on a feeling of helplessness which causes some to lash out in unpredictable and violent ways. yes (some not all) Did Timothy McVey blow up Oklahoma Bldg? Here's something: the only person who literally jumped out the window and escaped that day, Jeff Soriano, was killed in a fireball car accident one week later. Cho committed suicide after law enforcement officers breached the doors of the building where dead and wounded had most of its victims. I'm sure there are other cases with such magnitude of victims, however the Port Arthur massacre came to my mind. 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